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Majin Vegeta or Bebi Vegeta
Topic Started: Aug 7 2016, 11:27 PM (853 Views)
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which do you like more.
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1-Design
2-Originality
3-Powers/abilities
4-How they came to be
5-Evil intent

?/25 what are your ratings on these characters.


Majin-----Bebi
1-2/5-----1-3/5
2-5/5-----2-5/5
3-5/5-----3-5/5
4-3/5-----4-4/5
5-3/5-----5-4/5

Total------Total
18/25-----21/25
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Bebi Vegeta on everything because I find him to be a much better character than Majin Vegeta whom I didn't like.
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I didn't care much for Majin Vegeta, to be honest. He's cool, I guess, but I still hate the idea of turning him evil, and by his own choice at that.
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"I am the bone of my sword."

Baby Vegeta and his saga is, at worst, an improved version of Plan to Eradicate the Saiyans. He's got a better original story, more original design, more original origin story and as far as evil intent goes, well he's evil but he also has shown concern for his own people at some point. He's a much more complex character at times.It''s not even so much about Vegeta as it is Baby.

Majin Vegeta though, he threw a raging fit, cried about being weaker than Goku and then took it out on everyone else only to realize, I'm guessing 4-5 chapters later. Whoops, maybe this wasn't my best idea and blows himself up. He's such a blatant tool for Toriyama it hurts.
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Baby was a villain with an actual reason to be evil, character beyond being a violent dickbag, and with a design that wasn't Vegeta trying to be a badass. Majin Vegeta is Vegeta throwing a s*** fit because he doesn't feel like enough of a man if he isn't killing people.
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I'll go with Majin Vegeta. He's still his own man, and stunned everyone in his ability to reject Babidi's control after using him to increase his power. Plus, the eyeliner is sexy.

Beyond the hair, I don't care for Baby Vegeta. His voice isn't pleasant, and it's just a very weak moment for Vegeta in comparison to his Majin days.
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To sum up all the above posts, Majin Vegeta sucks.
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StenouousSpider
Aug 7 2016, 11:27 PM
which do you like more.
Scale 1-5

1-Design
2-Originality
3-Powers/abilities
4-How they came to be
5-Evil intent

?/25 what are your ratings on these characters.


Majin-----Bebi
1-2/5-----1-3/5
2-5/5-----2-5/5
3-5/5-----3-5/5
4-3/5-----4-4/5
5-3/5-----5-4/5

Total------Total
18/25-----21/25
Design - Other than the M, Majin looks the same. Baby V looks like a totally different person, and freaky too. So clearly Baby Vegeta wins.

Majin - 3, Baby - 4

Originality - Same answer as for design.

Majin - 1, Baby - 3

Powers and abilities - Majin has the same exact moveset as Vegeta. Baby has new ones as well.

Majin - 3, Baby - 4

How they came to be - Possesed by evil wizard by your own will vs. controlled by creation of old rival race against your will. Yeah, Baby again.

Majin - 3, Baby - 4

Evil intent - The only one Majin wins with. He actually wanted to turn evil again, as opposed to Baby V, where it was sudden and out of his control. Points taken from Majin for not being THAT evil.

Majin - 3, Baby - 1

13 for Majin, 16 for Baby.
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Majin Vegeta by far. He's more original than Baby Vegeta.
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SSbardock84
Aug 8 2016, 05:02 AM
Majin Vegeta by far. He's more original than Baby Vegeta.
Really now, more original? You should debate my points then.
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Majin Vegeta is embodiment of everything great. Which is alien terminology when it comes to even start rating Bebi Vegeta

Bebi Vegeta is.....essentially just Bebi. Scared b*** dat runs into body of very rave he comdemns & Veggie had no role to play

Majin Veggie simply rocked & his moments were by FAR greatest highlights of Boo Arc
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I don't really see how this is a comparison. Majin Vegeta is still Vegeta. Bebi Vegeta on the other hand is really Bebi, using Vegeta's body as a host.

To hate Majin Vegeta is to fundamentally hate Vegeta as a character. It's a pivotal point for him. The struggle of accepting his new peaceful life vs his old violent, vindictive past. He liked how hate made him feel powerful, and thought it a means to surpassing Goku, as he acknowledged he had become gentle. He was wrong. He was afflicted by the Majin seal, killing people to anger Goku into a fight. That wasn't Vegeta in complete control, he briefly lost some of the humanity he had gained over the years, later making sure the people he killed were wished back. Moral of the story he learnt to value the love he had for his family, his comradery with Goku, reconciling the fact that his existence wasn't constantly a threat to his integrity as a Saiyan and as a man. He died for his mistakes and to save everyone. If that isn't a noble death, i don't know what is.

Bebi on the other hand wants to kill the Saiyans who had nothing to do with his races demise, and subsequently, hypocritically, rule the universe as the strongest race. Top tier reasoning right there.

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Between those, I'm a bigger fan of Majin Vegeta, and Majin Vegeta is one of my favourite character events in DB. Vegeta's decision to go through what he did was meaningful, and he was hurt right in what mattered most to him, his pride and belief in his destiny. I see his showing his feelings at that time a great strength, unshamedly showing what it is that he stands himself upon, and that his own life or death was secondary to what he reasoned to be his purpose and ability. And when he gave his life, it was after discovering within himself, with the help of Goku's rejection of his claims to not care about anyone, a greater fulfillment for his strength than simply to have it and to be the best.

I think Majin Vegeta is Vegeta at his spiritual mightiest, most clear-sighted, and most confident, without his confidence being as much based upon arrogance as it had been before.

Baby Vegeta is more of a typical villain, seeking revenge. Majin Vegeta is driven by a more noble purpose of character, and he undergoes a sincere and genuine transformation of character, while pitting himself all-out against Goku, in a battle of character truths. And after having his self-beliefs of being purely for selfish strength pushed back and challenged by Goku, he becomes something more. And that feels far more powerful, to me.

Also, Majin Vegeta's simple sleeveless jumpsuit and gloves uniform looks really cool.
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Bebi on the other hand wants to kill the Saiyans who had nothing to do with his races demise, and subsequently, hypocritically, rule the universe as the strongest race. Top tier reasoning right there.

Having his entire race genocided by the Saiyans would really make anyone unstable. Unlike Vegeta, Baby actually cared about his people. What's more is that he was created specifically in order to do this, it's part of his directive as a machine mutant to act in such a manner. Baby's a racist, but very understandably so given he has the memories of the people who are now extinct because of the Saiyans' greed and selfishness. From Baby's perspective, he's insuring that the same thing will never happen to the Tuffles again, and bringing back his entire people, the whole world that he knows because of the memories he has.

What's more is that at the very least, Vegeta played some part in it, given his callous comments towards Baby when he shows up.
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I see his showing his feelings at that time a great strength, unshamedly showing what it is that he stands himself upon, and that his own life or death was secondary to what he reasoned to be his purpose and ability.

Even Goku mocks the idea that Vegeta was actually being strong in the manga. Vegeta may have thought he was being strong, but in the end, he let himself become Babidi's pawn
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lazerbem
Aug 9 2016, 02:51 PM
Even Goku mocks the idea that Vegeta was actually being strong in the manga. Vegeta may have thought he was being strong, but in the end, he let himself become Babidi's pawn
I haven't read that part of the manga, but in the show, the decision to let himself be controlled is mocked. Not his expressing of himself as to why, which I think Goku respected.
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